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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Chris Keyworth</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think the vast majority of people share a common view with regards to lord Ys land They all think he has to much they think it is managed irisponsibly and the fact he lets no one on it to detects infuriates 95% of the detecting population of our area, he fails to understand that all metal detectorists are not out for just one thing, Money. heritage and the great unknown is the major drive behind most detectoristsin our area, most metal detector will only detect down a max of 12 / 18 inches lord Y ploughs most of his land in this depth range i for one tend not to dig deep targets as for one i cant be bothered and 2 its normally iron which dosn't really interest me. i have said this in the past when Archaeologists move onto a site they discard the topsoil where most of the detector finds are made so they carnt argue that it is doing damage to the site as all the finds made in the topsoil are unstratified so bare no value to a site othan an aproximate date range... in my view Lord Y should let the detectorists on like they have at Brough near Lincoln charge a day fee and insist all finds are recorded this will put a stop to the night hawking of the sites on Lord Ys land and keep the detectorists happy aswell as increece the knollage range of the sites.

while he insists on barring metal detectorists on his land he will attract the night hawkes the only way to stop it is to let them on under strict licence, this will end it over night and improve the security of the sites.

regards
        chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think the vast majority of people share a common view with regards to lord Ys land They all think he has to much they think it is managed irisponsibly and the fact he lets no one on it to detects infuriates 95% of the detecting population of our area, he fails to understand that all metal detectorists are not out for just one thing, Money. heritage and the great unknown is the major drive behind most detectoristsin our area, most metal detector will only detect down a max of 12 / 18 inches lord Y ploughs most of his land in this depth range i for one tend not to dig deep targets as for one i cant be bothered and 2 its normally iron which dosn&#8217;t really interest me. i have said this in the past when Archaeologists move onto a site they discard the topsoil where most of the detector finds are made so they carnt argue that it is doing damage to the site as all the finds made in the topsoil are unstratified so bare no value to a site othan an aproximate date range&#8230; in my view Lord Y should let the detectorists on like they have at Brough near Lincoln charge a day fee and insist all finds are recorded this will put a stop to the night hawking of the sites on Lord Ys land and keep the detectorists happy aswell as increece the knollage range of the sites.</p>
	<p>while he insists on barring metal detectorists on his land he will attract the night hawkes the only way to stop it is to let them on under strict licence, this will end it over night and improve the security of the sites.</p>
	<p>regards<br />
        chris
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Kate</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Chris,

many thanks :) .

 That's a pretty dismal state of affairs isn't it, how on earth does Lord Y get away with it? Destruction of sites like this is nothing short of vandalism :(  I know this has been a bone of contention for a long time. I can't see why the trees, at least on the embankments, couldn't be removed - they don't look like ancient woodland; it's almost as if the excuse of &quot;oh well, it's all starting to fall down anyway&quot; is a legit reason to get on with enlarging the quarry. Detector users get castigated for what they do, and ok, Kirmington and the area has real problems with nighthawking, but the big mi££ionare landowners can get away with it and seem to steamroller over the laws that apply to everyone else...

Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Chris,</p>
	<p>many thanks <img src='http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
	<p> That&#8217;s a pretty dismal state of affairs isn&#8217;t it, how on earth does Lord Y get away with it? Destruction of sites like this is nothing short of vandalism <img src='http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wp-images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   I know this has been a bone of contention for a long time. I can&#8217;t see why the trees, at least on the embankments, couldn&#8217;t be removed - they don&#8217;t look like ancient woodland; it&#8217;s almost as if the excuse of &#8220;oh well, it&#8217;s all starting to fall down anyway&#8221; is a legit reason to get on with enlarging the quarry. Detector users get castigated for what they do, and ok, Kirmington and the area has real problems with nighthawking, but the big mi££ionare landowners can get away with it and seem to steamroller over the laws that apply to everyone else&#8230;</p>
	<p>Kate
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Chris Keyworth</title>
		<link>http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/yarborough-camp-a-roman-fort-in-lincolnshire#comment-18674</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Kate/ Rod / jack
    Answer to your question kate is yes, only two weeks ago the site to the north of the camp was under evaluation the Archies they were all over it like a rash its the site of quite alot of Ring ditches, i think there planning to put a pipeline through it again .

the woods is a strange place but i think yarbrough is planning to make money from it in the way of quarrying the stone out sadly destroying the camp itself, the quarry gets closer and closer every year and the trees get hit by the weather quite bad with it being ontop of the hill,

there is / was quite alot of ironage sites in and around croxton and kirmington...

            regards
                  chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Kate/ Rod / jack<br />
    Answer to your question kate is yes, only two weeks ago the site to the north of the camp was under evaluation the Archies they were all over it like a rash its the site of quite alot of Ring ditches, i think there planning to put a pipeline through it again .</p>
	<p>the woods is a strange place but i think yarbrough is planning to make money from it in the way of quarrying the stone out sadly destroying the camp itself, the quarry gets closer and closer every year and the trees get hit by the weather quite bad with it being ontop of the hill,</p>
	<p>there is / was quite alot of ironage sites in and around croxton and kirmington&#8230;</p>
	<p>            regards<br />
                  chris
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Kate</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hello Jack (and Rod!),

According to the Institute for Name-Studies based at Nottingham University, it comes from the Old English &quot;Eorth-burg&quot;  - the INS translation is &quot;earthwork&quot; but it can just as easily mean &quot;earth fort/stronghold&quot;and so on - thus a wonderfully descriptive name! Sadly this gives us no idea as to what the name may have been during the Roman settlement of the area, I can't find any clues so far. I did find references to the Roman fort originating from the Claudian period, but I need to do more reading. 

Chris K, are you about? Do you know of any Iron Age finds round Yarborough that might indicate pre-Roman occupation of the site? I've found some on DFDS from Kirmington, that amongst other things, indicate there was a site of worship there pre the Roman temple. All the literature so far points to the start of use of the camp during the Roman period. I can't think of anything that's come through PAS in the last few years.

One thing I found curious (as did Rod); desperate as we are for trees and woodland in our county, according to English Heritage, the primary reason that the fort is on the at risk register is because of the scrub and tree growth on the fort. Doesn't Lord Y have it managed at all? Surely he could spare a few quid from his several millions, probably get some sort of grant aid to coppice it to provide a sustainable fuel source :roll: and provide local employment to boot :? ...  not to mention preserve a hugely valuable piece of our history and heritage for the future.

Best wishes
Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hello Jack (and Rod!),</p>
	<p>According to the Institute for Name-Studies based at Nottingham University, it comes from the Old English &#8220;Eorth-burg&#8221;  - the INS translation is &#8220;earthwork&#8221; but it can just as easily mean &#8220;earth fort/stronghold&#8221;and so on - thus a wonderfully descriptive name! Sadly this gives us no idea as to what the name may have been during the Roman settlement of the area, I can&#8217;t find any clues so far. I did find references to the Roman fort originating from the Claudian period, but I need to do more reading. </p>
	<p>Chris K, are you about? Do you know of any Iron Age finds round Yarborough that might indicate pre-Roman occupation of the site? I&#8217;ve found some on DFDS from Kirmington, that amongst other things, indicate there was a site of worship there pre the Roman temple. All the literature so far points to the start of use of the camp during the Roman period. I can&#8217;t think of anything that&#8217;s come through PAS in the last few years.</p>
	<p>One thing I found curious (as did Rod); desperate as we are for trees and woodland in our county, according to English Heritage, the primary reason that the fort is on the at risk register is because of the scrub and tree growth on the fort. Doesn&#8217;t Lord Y have it managed at all? Surely he could spare a few quid from his several millions, probably get some sort of grant aid to coppice it to provide a sustainable fuel source  <img src='http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wp-images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  and provide local employment to boot <img src='http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wp-images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;  not to mention preserve a hugely valuable piece of our history and heritage for the future.</p>
	<p>Best wishes<br />
Kate
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Rod</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Jack,
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - anything that comes to light generally goes on the site.
Regards
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Jack,<br />
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - anything that comes to light generally goes on the site.<br />
Regards<br />
Rod
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Jack Yarbrough</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 06:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rod,

I am glad to have found your site and would appreciate any other information about the origin of the name Yarbrough or Yarborough you may have that the normal channels do not have. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rod,</p>
	<p>I am glad to have found your site and would appreciate any other information about the origin of the name Yarbrough or Yarborough you may have that the normal channels do not have. Thank you
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Rod</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Neville,
I hope to revisit the area, hopefully with Chris, again at some point and we'll try and look into everything possible and get it covered on the site
Best 
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Neville,<br />
I hope to revisit the area, hopefully with Chris, again at some point and we&#8217;ll try and look into everything possible and get it covered on the site<br />
Best<br />
Rod
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Amiguru</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Chris &amp;#38; Rod,

Yes its at TA12698 12894 between the B1211 and Newsham Lake. The reason it is on this thread is that I am surveying the whole area for high spot anomalies which might indicate activity at some point in the past. The surrounding fields immediately around the wood are in the range of 47-53 feet above datum but the wood itself is reading up to 113 feet in the centre! 

Just thought an onsite check might be fruitful on the ground to confirm or deny the data. Don't make a special trip but please check when next in the vicinity. Thanks.
Regards,
Nev</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chris &amp; Rod,</p>
	<p>Yes its at TA12698 12894 between the B1211 and Newsham Lake. The reason it is on this thread is that I am surveying the whole area for high spot anomalies which might indicate activity at some point in the past. The surrounding fields immediately around the wood are in the range of 47-53 feet above datum but the wood itself is reading up to 113 feet in the centre! </p>
	<p>Just thought an onsite check might be fruitful on the ground to confirm or deny the data. Don&#8217;t make a special trip but please check when next in the vicinity. Thanks.<br />
Regards,<br />
Nev
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: chris keyworth</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>at the end of newsham lake Rod the spring end..

                              regards
                                      chris..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>at the end of newsham lake Rod the spring end..</p>
	<p>                              regards<br />
                                      chris..
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 		<title>Comment on Yarborough Camp ~ A Roman Fort in Lincolnshire by: Rod</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Neville,
simple question but it's beaten me Neville - can't seem to spot it on the map either.
Sounds interesting Neville . . .
Best
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Neville,<br />
simple question but it&#8217;s beaten me Neville - can&#8217;t seem to spot it on the map either.<br />
Sounds interesting Neville . . .<br />
Best<br />
Rod
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