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 		<title>Comment on Wybers Wood ~ An Exploration of the History and Origins by: Rod</title>
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					<description>Hi Scott,
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - I was on that walk myself today, very nice spot and we're lucky to have such an area so readily accessible
Cheers
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Scott,<br />
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - I was on that walk myself today, very nice spot and we&#8217;re lucky to have such an area so readily accessible<br />
Cheers<br />
Rod
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting stuff people!

I have lived on the estate all my life (now 30) and have just bought a house on the back of st nicks overlooking the field. Went for a walk from the field towards laceby and saw two metal detectorists there just last week. 

I'm actually an archaeologist by trade, so if anyone needs any help, then please ask.

I once showed an interest in the area when volunteering for the councils archaeologist. The street names bear no relevance to its history (wybers wood), but the moat next to St nicholas church always facinated me as i could see it from the school field. What evidence do we have of an old manor house there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interesting stuff people!</p>
	<p>I have lived on the estate all my life (now 30) and have just bought a house on the back of st nicks overlooking the field. Went for a walk from the field towards laceby and saw two metal detectorists there just last week. </p>
	<p>I&#8217;m actually an archaeologist by trade, so if anyone needs any help, then please ask.</p>
	<p>I once showed an interest in the area when volunteering for the councils archaeologist. The street names bear no relevance to its history (wybers wood), but the moat next to St nicholas church always facinated me as i could see it from the school field. What evidence do we have of an old manor house there?
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 06:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Kate,
the important thing here is,as I see it, a possibility of a connection.
Thus far it looks like the most promising posssibility for a contender for an origin of the name of the Wood.
The search continues in all areas though - just hope there's a provable and discoverable answer out there somewhere.
King regards,
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Kate,<br />
the important thing here is,as I see it, a possibility of a connection.<br />
Thus far it looks like the most promising posssibility for a contender for an origin of the name of the Wood.<br />
The search continues in all areas though - just hope there&#8217;s a provable and discoverable answer out there somewhere.<br />
King regards,<br />
Rod
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 		<title>Comment on Wybers Wood ~ An Exploration of the History and Origins by: Kate</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Whoops, I can see you added the last while I was writing - sorry, bit slow! The blush btw is mine, not yours! :)

Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Whoops, I can see you added the last while I was writing - sorry, bit slow! The blush btw is mine, not yours! <img src='http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Rod

sorry 'bout this, have you considered that Wyleghby might be Willoughby? :oops: It might be an idea to look back further, if you can, and find out how the de Wylegbys came by the rights to Great Coates in the first place...

 Medieval inheritances, gifted lands and dowries meant that land was rarely held in one contiguous block or area and thus arguments often arose to who owned or had the rights to where. Lands where the owner died with no inheritors or was declared a felon were taken (seized very rapidly is probably a better term!) by Escheators into the Crown possessions for a set period of time: rather a useful revenue stream to enforce when your predecessors had recently spent most of the country's money on their own wars, wives and lawsuits!

 The Medieval Latin text (the names are Germanic/Danish) apparently refers to a case brought at the Quarter Day assize by the representative of the Prior of Assenby against Godfrey, son of Radulf, over (the division of?) a virgate of land - abt 30 acres - and its benefits, in Wyleghby (prob. Willoughby). 

Best wishes, Kate
(now scuttling off to hide before I get shouted at!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Rod</p>
	<p>sorry &#8217;bout this, have you considered that Wyleghby might be Willoughby?  <img src='http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wp-images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' />  It might be an idea to look back further, if you can, and find out how the de Wylegbys came by the rights to Great Coates in the first place&#8230;</p>
	<p> Medieval inheritances, gifted lands and dowries meant that land was rarely held in one contiguous block or area and thus arguments often arose to who owned or had the rights to where. Lands where the owner died with no inheritors or was declared a felon were taken (seized very rapidly is probably a better term!) by Escheators into the Crown possessions for a set period of time: rather a useful revenue stream to enforce when your predecessors had recently spent most of the country&#8217;s money on their own wars, wives and lawsuits!</p>
	<p> The Medieval Latin text (the names are Germanic/Danish) apparently refers to a case brought at the Quarter Day assize by the representative of the Prior of Assenby against Godfrey, son of Radulf, over (the division of?) a virgate of land - abt 30 acres - and its benefits, in Wyleghby (prob. Willoughby). </p>
	<p>Best wishes, Kate<br />
(now scuttling off to hide before I get shouted at!)
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>John Bek, mentioned above is connected to Robert de Willoughby, date around 1300.
Willoughbt held land in Lincolnshire and was called on by by  King Edward I to perform miltiary service against the Scots. He was at the Siege of Carlaverock and was wounded in the chest by 'a stone' during the assault

Because of his service he was granted 'free warren in his manors'
The manors mentioned were &lt;b&gt;Eresby&lt;/b&gt; (Spilsby I believe) and . . . &lt;b&gt;the Manor of Wyleghby !!!&lt;/b&gt;

Is Wyleghby a corruption of Willoughby ?

There is a definite connection between Great Coates and the family name of Wylegby / Wyleghby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>John Bek, mentioned above is connected to Robert de Willoughby, date around 1300.<br />
Willoughbt held land in Lincolnshire and was called on by by  King Edward I to perform miltiary service against the Scots. He was at the Siege of Carlaverock and was wounded in the chest by &#8216;a stone&#8217; during the assault</p>
	<p>Because of his service he was granted &#8216;free warren in his manors&#8217;<br />
The manors mentioned were <b>Eresby</b> (Spilsby I believe) and . . . <b>the Manor of Wyleghby !!!</b></p>
	<p>Is Wyleghby a corruption of Willoughby ?</p>
	<p>There is a definite connection between Great Coates and the family name of Wylegby / Wyleghby
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Margery Wyleghby.
I've found mention of 'Margery', as opposed to 'Mary', and the alternate spelling 'Wyleghby' as the owner of the Manor of Great Cotes who brought the estate into the Barnardiston by marriage to, I believe, Thomas de Barnardiston to whom she was later widow.

There's also a mention of a Johannes Malet de Wylegby in the medieval Parliament Rolls 1275-1504

Here's something which looks to the uninitiated, i.e. me, like some sort of Latin / German . . . 
&lt;i&gt;Prior de Asseby per attornatum suum optulit se quarto die versus Godefridum filium Radulfi de placito dimidie virgate terre cum pertinenciis in Wylegby&lt;/i&gt;
It's from the Curia Regis Rolls of Henry III</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Margery Wyleghby.<br />
I&#8217;ve found mention of &#8216;Margery&#8217;, as opposed to &#8216;Mary&#8217;, and the alternate spelling &#8216;Wyleghby&#8217; as the owner of the Manor of Great Cotes who brought the estate into the Barnardiston by marriage to, I believe, Thomas de Barnardiston to whom she was later widow.</p>
	<p>There&#8217;s also a mention of a Johannes Malet de Wylegby in the medieval Parliament Rolls 1275-1504</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s something which looks to the uninitiated, i.e. me, like some sort of Latin / German . . .<br />
<i>Prior de Asseby per attornatum suum optulit se quarto die versus Godefridum filium Radulfi de placito dimidie virgate terre cum pertinenciis in Wylegby</i><br />
It&#8217;s from the Curia Regis Rolls of Henry III
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					<description>Important Wybers-Great Coates  Update:
A very interesting 'development' in the hunt for the origins of the name Wybers Wood

&lt;b&gt;Wylegby&lt;/b&gt;

Not a name I've come across before, obviously not exactly Wybers but as those familiar with the etymology of place names will be aware it's &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; close !
The Barnardistons were a very well known and important family in Great Coates.
The actually acquired the Great Coates estate by marriage, to a woman called . . . 
&lt;b&gt;Mary Wylegby&lt;/b&gt;

This was during the reign of Edward II (late 1200s early 1300s)
It's a rare name !
I've found few mentions of the family name but those so far include:

Robert de Wylegby is mentioned as a witness in a 13th century will involving land in Somercotes Lincolnshire

A 1295 Notifcation of Surrender:
William son of William son of Hugh de Wylegby of Askeby to John Bek

1295 &quot;Letter of attorney to deliver seizin&quot;
William son of William son of Hugh de Wylegby appoints Simon rector of Foletby and John de Wylegby his brother


1290 &quot;Notification of a grant in free marriage.&quot;
John Bek of Eresby to William son of Robert de Wylegby with Alice his daughter.
Property: 1. 16½ acres of land in demesne in Ingoldemel (Ingoldmells):
10 in le saltland, the sewer called Saltlandflet on one side.


Then an obscure reference:
&quot;Reginald de Colewic holds twenty-five bovates in Wylegby which they value at ^6 yearly&quot;

1275 sees mention of a Philip de Wylegby described as &quot;escheator beyond Trent&quot; in a Calendar of Close Rolls

This feels like quite a breakthrough to me and something that needs further research
Smilingly yours,
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Important Wybers-Great Coates  Update:<br />
A very interesting &#8216;development&#8217; in the hunt for the origins of the name Wybers Wood</p>
	<p><b>Wylegby</b></p>
	<p>Not a name I&#8217;ve come across before, obviously not exactly Wybers but as those familiar with the etymology of place names will be aware it&#8217;s <i>very</i> close !<br />
The Barnardistons were a very well known and important family in Great Coates.<br />
The actually acquired the Great Coates estate by marriage, to a woman called . . .<br />
<b>Mary Wylegby</b></p>
	<p>This was during the reign of Edward II (late 1200s early 1300s)<br />
It&#8217;s a rare name !<br />
I&#8217;ve found few mentions of the family name but those so far include:</p>
	<p>Robert de Wylegby is mentioned as a witness in a 13th century will involving land in Somercotes Lincolnshire</p>
	<p>A 1295 Notifcation of Surrender:<br />
William son of William son of Hugh de Wylegby of Askeby to John Bek</p>
	<p>1295 &#8220;Letter of attorney to deliver seizin&#8221;<br />
William son of William son of Hugh de Wylegby appoints Simon rector of Foletby and John de Wylegby his brother</p>
	<p>1290 &#8220;Notification of a grant in free marriage.&#8221;<br />
John Bek of Eresby to William son of Robert de Wylegby with Alice his daughter.<br />
Property: 1. 16½ acres of land in demesne in Ingoldemel (Ingoldmells):<br />
10 in le saltland, the sewer called Saltlandflet on one side.</p>
	<p>Then an obscure reference:<br />
&#8220;Reginald de Colewic holds twenty-five bovates in Wylegby which they value at ^6 yearly&#8221;</p>
	<p>1275 sees mention of a Philip de Wylegby described as &#8220;escheator beyond Trent&#8221; in a Calendar of Close Rolls</p>
	<p>This feels like quite a breakthrough to me and something that needs further research<br />
Smilingly yours,<br />
Rod
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					<description>HH,
the street names you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/cun-hu-hill-possibly-the-site-of-a-royal-seat-in-grimsby#comment-16347&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mentioned here&lt;/a&gt; are/were of interest.
I've not found anything out and with them being pretty modern I supposed they were likely just a theme chosen by the developers.

It could also be a chicken and egg situation - everybody say that Wybers is built on an old religious building but is that vecause of the names or do the names follow an older legend ?
Tunstall and Chapel Field House are two names which really grab me

Best 
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>HH,<br />
the street names you <a href="http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/cun-hu-hill-possibly-the-site-of-a-royal-seat-in-grimsby#comment-16347" rel="nofollow">mentioned here</a> are/were of interest.<br />
I&#8217;ve not found anything out and with them being pretty modern I supposed they were likely just a theme chosen by the developers.</p>
	<p>It could also be a chicken and egg situation - everybody say that Wybers is built on an old religious building but is that vecause of the names or do the names follow an older legend ?<br />
Tunstall and Chapel Field House are two names which really grab me</p>
	<p>Best<br />
Rod
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					<description>Hi Phil,
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site
I know the moat you speak of, it's not been written up separately but is mentioned on the Great Coates page - link below
Hope this helps and hope you return 
All the best 
Rod

http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/great-coates-church-pictures-history-of-st-nicholas-church#comment-15227</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Phil,<br />
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site<br />
I know the moat you speak of, it&#8217;s not been written up separately but is mentioned on the Great Coates page - link below<br />
Hope this helps and hope you return<br />
All the best<br />
Rod</p>
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