They did however grow to be a vast and very powerful worldwide network.
Regards,
Rod

Phil said: “The claim that they were ‘christians’ is also misleading based on how we understand the word today. They were all engaging in war. Genocide. Killing in the name of god. Killing in the name of ‘christ’.
Although come to think of it.. thats still what they are doing today. Blair did it. Bush did it. and the rest.
Its been going on since the israelites were given permission by god to do it in Caanan.”

I’d be interested to hear you support the term Genocide regarding the poor knights of Chirst (Templars). To me Genocide means: Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. The order never had as a goal to systematically destroy any of those groups. Their job was primarily defensive, they did however participate in some preemptive warfare. The Islamic world has a requirement to force “Submission” on non believers, Christianity calls for turning the other cheek. Additionally the order was extensively villified in it’s time for it’s forward-thinking relationships with other faith groups like the Jewish and moslem peoples.

Regards
Rod

I have a question, before 1147 what color was the cross?

My family has a Knights Templar cross on its coat of arms, and my family founded the first Freemasons Lodge in the world at Kilwinning. Kilwinning was built in 1040 to store relics that were found by the Knights Templars in 1040 under the Temple Mount of Jerusalem. The real Stone of Destiny belongs to my family, and the one that England now has in Scotland is a fake. The royal family of King David went into exile to Gamala, and Jesus grew up in Gamala. Both Gamala, and Gemmell comes from the third letter of the Hebrew alphabet ‘gimel’ which means camel. My family held on to Templehouse, even after the Knights Templars disbanded into the Freemasons. The real Stone of Destiny was kept in the garden at Templehouse, and Templehouse was considered holy ground, and when the Knights Templar disbanded, they never took anything from my family. Legend calls my family’s Templehouse “Mount Heredom”, and A.J. Morton calls it Dunlop Temple.

So, given the facts that my family surname of Gemmell means “Ancient” in Scotland, and I am connect to the Holy Grail legends, and the Freemasons, there is no doubt in my mind that Knights Templar existed to protect my family, and when the Pope found out why the real purpose of Knights Templar, the inquisition started to force the Knights Templar to reveal the family of Jesus, but they preferred to burn at the stake than betray my family. So, we had good reasons to establish the first Mother Lodge of Freemasons at Kilwinning to continue the protection that the Knights Templar vowed with their life to protect.

So, my question is: Why the Gemmell had a small silver Greek cross on their coat of arms? Was it common to use a small silver cross, or was it done with a reason? Was the Gemmell silver cross marking the place where the Stone of Destiny was being kept? There is no doubt in my mind that the ‘red cross’ glorified the death of our Lord Jesus Christ for it is the color of blood, but the silver cross glorified his resurrection, for it was bright and shiny.

Sorry for all the details, however I have only given a small part. But I seek that you are very knowledgeable, and perhaps you can share with me what you know about the silver cross being used by the Knights Templar.

- Joshua

If want serious then I can recommend one book, it’s indepth and is a slight dry read, as scholarly books tend to be, try The New Knighthood by Malcolm Barber.

It is also possible to infer what some things must have been like. Take “The Rule of St. Benedict” for example - following that rigidly would rule certain things in and out by definition.

All the best
Rod

I was just wondering what your source is for all of the detailed information that you give about what the templars wore and such. I am not challenging your information, I am simply wondering where you might have got it? All I can find online is just websites that say “templars wore a white tunic with a bright red cross on the front” which like you said, isn’t very detailed or accurate. thanks for sharing,

Starfish Prime

Ive taken the time to review all the information presented in the linked sites.
It is my opinion that there are too many inconsistencies and political inventions to take it seriously
and the suggestion that the Order ended in 1317 with the death of its leader can be safely taken
as nonesense.
It is interesting to note that ‘Me’ particularly picked on the point that they were Jews, but rather than
get into that one just now, ive concluded that there are much more important issues to consider.
The identity of ‘god’ and the identity of Jesus himself.
The claim that they were ‘christians’ is also misleading based on how we understand the word today.
They were all engaging in war. Genocide. Killing in the name of god. Killing in the name of ‘christ’.
Although come to think of it.. thats still what they are doing today. Blair did it. Bush did it. and the rest.
Its been going on since the israelites were given permission by god to do it in Caanan.

Find their true identity and I think all other questions will be answered.

regards
Phil

ps.
I would call the Templars ‘Zionists’ Anyone not familiar with this term can easily look it up!

regards
Phil