Comments on: Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps A Site About Everything and Nothing Wed, 23 May 2012 00:34:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27992 Sat, 12 May 2012 05:13:42 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27992 Linda, thanks for the comment, verymuch appreciated and welcome to the site All the best Rod Linda,
thanks for the comment, verymuch appreciated and welcome to the site
All the best
Rod

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Linda Grant http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27987 Sat, 12 May 2012 00:13:37 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27987 My Gran stayed with her parents during the war (I temporarily forget the name of the street but my Great Uncle lived there till his death in the 90's - the Anderson Shelter was still there in the garden which was bisected by an alley). She used to tell me a tale of hanging out washing in the garden accompanied by my uncle and heavily pregnant with my mum (so must have been near end of the war) and seeing a parachute and realising too late that it was a bomb and, unable to make it to the shelter, dashing indoors and hiding in 'the gas cupboard'. The blast blew in all the windows in her house in Campden Cresent and my sister still has the bedroom furniture that was in the front bedroom and in a shaft of sunlight you can see the bits of glass embedded in it. My Gran stayed with her parents during the war (I temporarily forget the name of the street but my Great Uncle lived there till his death in the 90’s - the Anderson Shelter was still there in the garden which was bisected by an alley).

She used to tell me a tale of hanging out washing in the garden accompanied by my uncle and heavily pregnant with my mum (so must have been near end of the war) and seeing a parachute and realising too late that it was a bomb and, unable to make it to the shelter, dashing indoors and hiding in ‘the gas cupboard’.

The blast blew in all the windows in her house in Campden Cresent and my sister still has the bedroom furniture that was in the front bedroom and in a shaft of sunlight you can see the bits of glass embedded in it.

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Paul http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27921 Thu, 10 May 2012 10:45:35 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27921 The Aircraft that straffed humberston was seen by my Uncle George who lived on Tetney Road, and he said it was a Me 109, he could well have mistaken the name of the aircraft, Although the Bf109G did have long range tanks and flying out of Northern Holland may have been able to make it. It could carry 30mm cannon or 20mm as well as 7,92 machine guns There are no recorded crash sites in Lincolnshire for Me109's or Me 110's, only HE111,Do215, Do217, Ju88. The attack on Grimsby by the single aircraft was early March 1945. The damage, "irregular " it may be, but does look a lot like cannon fire. When you hit steel plate at dead 90deg, with a heavy calibre weapon, you will get a nice neat hole, when you put a slight angel on it , you get odd shaped holes, and tears in the steel. The steel on the bridge looks to be about 3/4 plate. A jacketed lead core 7.92 bullet traveling at 2500fps will go through steel plate like its been done with a drill press, hower the Luftwaffe used a 7.92 B-ball , which had an exploding pellet in it. And the 7.92 phospherous round had a steel armoured piercing core and so did the Spitzer all used by the Luftwaffe. The spent case (and clip) that my Uncle recovered from the green house was 20mm. The 20mm round fired by the MG151/20 was , tracer, high explosive or phospherous. I have seen a lot of steel plate over the last 20 years damaged by large calibre weapons on various MOD ranges, some have had perfect round holes, others very strange shaped. HE can make very irregular holes and so can cannon fire without exploding! The Aircraft that straffed humberston was seen by my Uncle George who lived on Tetney Road, and he said it was a Me 109, he could well have mistaken the name of the aircraft, Although the Bf109G did have long range tanks and flying out of Northern Holland may have been able to make it.
It could carry 30mm cannon or 20mm as well as 7,92 machine guns
There are no recorded crash sites in Lincolnshire for Me109’s or Me 110’s, only HE111,Do215, Do217, Ju88.
The attack on Grimsby by the single aircraft was early March 1945.
The damage, “irregular ” it may be, but does look a lot like cannon fire. When you hit steel plate at dead 90deg, with a heavy calibre weapon, you will get a nice neat hole, when you put a slight angel on it , you get odd shaped holes, and tears in the steel. The steel on the bridge looks to be about 3/4 plate. A jacketed lead core 7.92 bullet traveling at 2500fps will go through steel plate like its been done with a drill press, hower the Luftwaffe used a 7.92 B-ball , which had an exploding pellet in it. And the 7.92 phospherous round had a steel armoured piercing core and so did the Spitzer all used by the Luftwaffe.
The spent case (and clip) that my Uncle recovered from the green house was 20mm.
The 20mm round fired by the MG151/20 was , tracer, high explosive or phospherous.
I have seen a lot of steel plate over the last 20 years damaged by large calibre weapons on various MOD ranges, some have had perfect round holes, others very strange shaped.
HE can make very irregular holes and so can cannon fire without exploding!

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: History Hunter http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27839 Mon, 07 May 2012 22:38:19 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27839 The holes in the old railway bridge were far to irregular in shape and were the result of the nearby bombs dropped in and around Peppercorn Walk. My dad saw the damage 2 days after it had happened on the night of the 13 July 1943, the night of the High Explosives raid. There was a gentleman by the name of Arthur Green killed at 23 Peppercorn Walk. The holes in the old railway bridge were far to irregular in shape and were the result of the nearby bombs dropped in and around Peppercorn Walk. My dad saw the damage 2 days after it had happened on the night of the 13 July 1943, the night of the High Explosives raid. There was a gentleman by the name of Arthur Green killed at 23 Peppercorn Walk.

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Martin Bridge http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27824 Mon, 07 May 2012 15:43:36 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27824 Hello Paul ...Hmmnnn, dubious that story. A ME109 was a single-engined fighter. Even over Kent in 1940, it only carried enough fuel to remain operational over (southern) England for approx 30 minutes! More like a Me110? ..tho' those 'bullet holes' on the bridge, look like cannon fire to me (I doubt machine-gun bullets would penetrate the heavy steel.) Hello Paul

…Hmmnnn, dubious that story. A ME109 was a single-engined fighter. Even over Kent in 1940, it only carried enough fuel to remain operational over (southern) England for approx 30 minutes! More like a Me110? ..tho’ those ‘bullet holes’ on the bridge, look like cannon fire to me (I doubt machine-gun bullets would penetrate the heavy steel.)

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Paul http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27619 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:06:46 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27619 The post by Eugine regarding the holes in the bridge. From what I have heared, the aircraft was an Me109 that straffed a light railway loco going over the bridge, it then flew over Humberston, and straffed Tetney Road. And narrowly missed a woman infront of what was the Scout hut. A round split a tree in half in front of the hut. A spent case from the plane went through the glass roof my Uncles green house. I still have the case! which he gave to me when I was a boy. The Me109 (from what I have heared) was shot down in the Wash. The post by Eugine regarding the holes in the bridge.
From what I have heared, the aircraft was an Me109 that straffed a light railway loco going over the bridge, it then flew over Humberston, and straffed Tetney Road. And narrowly missed a woman infront of what was the Scout hut. A round split a tree in half in front of the hut. A spent case from the plane went through the glass roof my Uncles green house. I still have the case! which he gave to me when I was a boy.
The Me109 (from what I have heared) was shot down in the Wash.

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27494 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:11:31 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27494 Lucky Len, what a sublime comment - absolutely wonderful - thank you so much for sharing it - it's absolutely wonderful. What a story and how good to have it on record In appreciation Rod Lucky Len,
what a sublime comment - absolutely wonderful - thank you so much for sharing it - it’s absolutely wonderful.
What a story and how good to have it on record
In appreciation
Rod

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Lucky Len! http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27489 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:41:02 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27489 The Mystery of the ARP Toilet! I remember quite clearly at about the age of 5, going to the beach over Suggitt's Lane (because you couldn't cross Fuller St Bridge at the time) with 5 or 6 older kids (including my eldest brother and I won't name any others to protect the not really innocent!). They found a cannister, which they immediately tried to open by throwing stones at it and throwing it at the breakwaters. After about an hour, someone decided it could be of use to the ARP so back we all went, me on the trolley with the canister between my legs to stop it falling off. It was taken to the ARP shelter at the end of Combe St in Sidney Park. As there was no one at home, we put it in the newly built toilets and shut the door. Not thinking anymore about it, we all dispersed to our homes - mine being in Combe St. The next day, the police & the ARP warden called to see my mother regarding the disappearance of the ARPs toilet (which had exploded during the night!) and did her children know anything about it. It is a well known fact that the toilet blew up, but at the time no-one owned up to anything. I think enough time has gone by to say it was me and some of those others are still around, and they know who they are!! This is a fact so the mystery is cleared up once & for all. The Mystery of the ARP Toilet!
I remember quite clearly at about the age of 5, going to the beach over Suggitt’s Lane (because you couldn’t cross Fuller St Bridge at the time) with 5 or 6 older kids (including my eldest brother and I won’t name any others to protect the not really innocent!). They found a cannister, which they immediately tried to open by throwing stones at it and throwing it at the breakwaters. After about an hour, someone decided it could be of use to the ARP so back we all went, me on the trolley with the canister between my legs to stop it falling off. It was taken to the ARP shelter at the end of Combe St in Sidney Park. As there was no one at home, we put it in the newly built toilets and shut the door. Not thinking anymore about it, we all dispersed to our homes - mine being in Combe St. The next day, the police & the ARP warden called to see my mother regarding the disappearance of the ARPs toilet (which had exploded during the night!) and did her children know anything about it. It is a well known fact that the toilet blew up, but at the time no-one owned up to anything. I think enough time has gone by to say it was me and some of those others are still around, and they know who they are!! This is a fact so the mystery is cleared up once & for all.

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27278 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:16:17 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27278 Haych, thanks for the fascinating comment and welcome to the site - I'm afraid I know nothing of any use mysefl but if anybody out there does . . . Regards Rod Haych,
thanks for the fascinating comment and welcome to the site - I’m afraid I know nothing of any use mysefl but if anybody out there does . . .
Regards
Rod

]]> Comment on Wartime Bombing in Grimsby Lincolnshire with Unique Maps by: Haych87 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27274 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:44:27 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wartime-bombing-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-with-unique-maps#comment-27274 This website makes for very interesting reading! I've enjoyed reading it. I wondered if anyone had any information on the old Thrunscoe building on Highgate. I've been in the building with a spiritualist and we have been told that the building had something to do with holding secrets from the Second World War. There was a meeting room where secret meetings took place which has direct links with Winston Churchill and there is a filing room that was run by two corporals (who were the only people allowed in there, due to the sensitive nature of the documents!) While i understand that not everybody believes in spirits etc, i am fascinated by the information that we found out and i am trying now to collect information to see what was actually in the building considering it was built with the original intention it was a school. Now the building has been changed significantly since, but does anyone remember, or know of any stories from family or friends about what was in that building? This website makes for very interesting reading! I’ve enjoyed reading it.

I wondered if anyone had any information on the old Thrunscoe building on Highgate. I’ve been in the building with a spiritualist and we have been told that the building had something to do with holding secrets from the Second World War. There was a meeting room where secret meetings took place which has direct links with Winston Churchill and there is a filing room that was run by two corporals (who were the only people allowed in there, due to the sensitive nature of the documents!) While i understand that not everybody believes in spirits etc, i am fascinated by the information that we found out and i am trying now to collect information to see what was actually in the building considering it was built with the original intention it was a school. Now the building has been changed significantly since, but does anyone remember, or know of any stories from family or friends about what was in that building?

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