Comments on: The Button Down Shirt A Style Clinic By Rod Damon http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon A Site About Everything and Nothing Tue, 22 May 2012 00:49:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on The Button Down Shirt A Style Clinic By Rod Damon by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-8789 Mon, 18 May 2009 07:34:34 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-8789 Hi Jim, thanks for the comment and welcome to the site. I know it's become popular in the states, but then so are Hawaiin Shirts and polyester trousers :) We have to be realistic though, things change, after all it would once have ben unthinkable for a gentleman to wear a red tie. I think standards started to fall here late 1940s to 1950s I would guess - certainly the 1960s was a disaster. Nice to hear from a man of taste Jim All the best from England Rod Hi Jim,
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site.
I know it’s become popular in the states, but then so are Hawaiin Shirts and polyester trousers :)

We have to be realistic though, things change, after all it would once have ben unthinkable for a gentleman to wear a red tie.
I think standards started to fall here late 1940s to 1950s I would guess - certainly the 1960s was a disaster.

Nice to hear from a man of taste Jim
All the best from England
Rod

]]> Comment on The Button Down Shirt A Style Clinic By Rod Damon by: Jim K http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-8785 Sun, 17 May 2009 22:31:40 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-8785 I wouldn't wear a button-down with a suit myself, but there is precedent. In old photos, you see it on everyone from Fred Astaire and Cary Grant (with a double-breasted suit, nonetheless) to British diplomats. That it should not be worn with a tie is bunk, at least in the states. I would, however, think it best suited to odd jackets at most. The broader point is well taken. I have some sense of how and when sartorial standards began to fall in the U.S.--was it roughly the same process in the UK, or was there a greater class dynamic? I wouldn’t wear a button-down with a suit myself, but there is precedent. In old photos, you see it on everyone from Fred Astaire and Cary Grant (with a double-breasted suit, nonetheless) to British diplomats. That it should not be worn with a tie is bunk, at least in the states. I would, however, think it best suited to odd jackets at most.

The broader point is well taken. I have some sense of how and when sartorial standards began to fall in the U.S.–was it roughly the same process in the UK, or was there a greater class dynamic?

]]> Comment on The Button Down Shirt A Style Clinic By Rod Damon by: Witches of Eastwick http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-6419 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:17:47 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-6419 Lindi, <i> shirt hanging outside of his trousers and flapping in the wind like a sail </i> ... he's not a sailor is he? If he's spending more time looking at his sextant than is necessary, then you must assume he is. Could be that he's ashamed of his midships (who wouldn't be with boiled underpants showing?) and the flapping shirt covers it up? Bring back the kaftan that's what we say :) WoE Lindi,

shirt hanging outside of his trousers and flapping in the wind like a sail … he’s not a sailor is he? If he’s spending more time looking at his sextant than is necessary, then you must assume he is. Could be that he’s ashamed of his midships (who wouldn’t be with boiled underpants showing?) and the flapping shirt covers it up?

Bring back the kaftan that’s what we say :)

WoE

]]> Comment on The Button Down Shirt A Style Clinic By Rod Damon by: Lindi Lou http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-6418 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:50:32 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-6418 Thank heaven for like minded people! I thought I was in danger of becoming a snob. Obviously not. On with the battle to smarten up the young chaps of the UK..... Thank heaven for like minded people! I thought I was in danger of becoming a snob. Obviously not. On with the battle to smarten up the young chaps of the UK…..

]]> Comment on The Button Down Shirt A Style Clinic By Rod Damon by: The Coxeman http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-6417 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:23:27 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-6417 Ms Lindi Lou, there does seem to be little hope for the men at large in this country, I am trying to change this but it is, frankly, an uphill struggle ! You bring up one very important point: I am regularly asked by young men, "how can I look more stylish ?" "You can start by tucking your shirt in" I am most often forced to reply. Keep it Up ! The Coxeman Ms Lindi Lou,
there does seem to be little hope for the men at large in this country, I am trying to change this but it is, frankly, an uphill struggle !

You bring up one very important point:
I am regularly asked by young men, “how can I look more stylish ?”
“You can start by tucking your shirt in” I am most often forced to reply.

Keep it Up !
The Coxeman

]]> Comment on The Button Down Shirt A Style Clinic By Rod Damon by: Lindi Lou http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-6416 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:22:56 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/the-button-down-shirt-a-style-clinic-by-rod-damon#comment-6416 How right you are! It is quite a shock to the system to see a man acknowledge that members of his own 'tribe' are indeed scruffy oikes. There have been a few occassions when I, approached by such an oike, have had to tell him to go home and get dressed properly before even attempting to chat up a young lady such as myself. The type of person I am referring to has a tendency to walk around wearing a formal(ish) shirt, with or without a button down collar, hanging outside of his trousers and flapping in the wind like a sail, usually to cover up a less than toned stomach (I am being polite here!). It only gets worse when the oike in question has opted to wear a pair of jeans which are ridiculously low slung and show all the glory of his faded underwear which 'mummy' has obviously had on boil wash. Usually, by the time I have encountered both of these scruffy types, I have chosen to go home, away from the pub and back to my wine rack and a movie involving Johnny Depp. How right you are! It is quite a shock to the system to see a man acknowledge that members of his own ‘tribe’ are indeed scruffy oikes. There have been a few occassions when I, approached by such an oike, have had to tell him to go home and get dressed properly before even attempting to chat up a young lady such as myself. The type of person I am referring to has a tendency to walk around wearing a formal(ish) shirt, with or without a button down collar, hanging outside of his trousers and flapping in the wind like a sail, usually to cover up a less than toned stomach (I am being polite here!). It only gets worse when the oike in question has opted to wear a pair of jeans which are ridiculously low slung and show all the glory of his faded underwear which ‘mummy’ has obviously had on boil wash. Usually, by the time I have encountered both of these scruffy types, I have chosen to go home, away from the pub and back to my wine rack and a movie involving Johnny Depp.

]]>