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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: Rod</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Eugene,
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - pleased it's been of use and interest to you
All the best 
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eugene,<br />
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - pleased it&#8217;s been of use and interest to you<br />
All the best<br />
Rod
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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: Eugene C. Rasband</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 16:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thank you so much for posting this photo! This is the church where my 2nd great grandparents were married. Their names were Thomas Rasband and Elizabeth Giles and they were married on Christmas day 1847. This will make their story so much richer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank you so much for posting this photo! This is the church where my 2nd great grandparents were married. Their names were Thomas Rasband and Elizabeth Giles and they were married on Christmas day 1847. This will make their story so much richer!
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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: Rod</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ian,
thanks for adding that, really interesting and much appreciated - welcome to the site and I hope you'll return
Regards
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ian,<br />
thanks for adding that, really interesting and much appreciated - welcome to the site and I hope you&#8217;ll return<br />
Regards<br />
Rod
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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: ian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hello,

I am  very familiar with st Mary Le Wigford church as I was a regular churchgoer there for about 18 years, and was on the committee that raised money for hall restoration and subsequently part of the church itself.It was always sid that King stephen tethered his horse here in the tower during fight with Maud, and subsecquently henry2 had his son crowned here and possibly himself in 1154 but this challenged by some historians but as parishioners most of us thought there may be some truth in the story who knows,if true then it would be probably the only church in England outside westminster abbey to hold a coronation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hello,</p>
	<p>I am  very familiar with st Mary Le Wigford church as I was a regular churchgoer there for about 18 years, and was on the committee that raised money for hall restoration and subsequently part of the church itself.It was always sid that King stephen tethered his horse here in the tower during fight with Maud, and subsecquently henry2 had his son crowned here and possibly himself in 1154 but this challenged by some historians but as parishioners most of us thought there may be some truth in the story who knows,if true then it would be probably the only church in England outside westminster abbey to hold a coronation
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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: Kate</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Steve (and Rod!)

Don't know if this is of any help...

   I believe that there is a &quot;restored&quot; transcription in Book 1 of 'The Roman Inscriptions of Britain' edited by R.G. Collingwood and R.P. Wright pub 1965- (R.I.B 262) - the same translation as Rod gives. Both books 1 &amp;#38; 2 of R.I.B. (inscriptions on stones &amp;#38; inscriptions on other artefacts) should be available at all good reference libraries and a summarised version is to be found online at all the doubleyous dot roman-britain dot org

 The surviving text of the Roman inscription reads  - DIS M(A)NIBVS NOMINI SAC(R)I BRVSCI FILI CIVIS SENONE ET CARSSO VNAE CONIVGIS EIVS ET QUINTI F... -  Which translates as something like 'In the memory of the departed,' or 'In the hands of the Gods, the name of Sacer, a son of Bruscus, citizen of the Senones and Carssouna his wife and Quintus h(is son)' - the rest of the stone has been broken off at some point in time, but it's pretty safe to assume that the 'F...' is FILI as Roman tombstone inscriptions do tend to follow a certain formula. The tribe of the Senones were located in what was NW central Gaul, around the region of what is now the modern town of Sens in Burgundy - does this mean that there are some yellowbellies out there related to these settlers in Lindum Colonia(i.e. French by any other name!) ? ;) 

The full text of the Anglo Saxon inscription is believed to be, according to R.I.B., Eirtig me let wircean and fios godian Criste to lofe and sancte Marie XP (the XP, although carved on the stone as a '+' with a 'P' as the middle vertical stroke, is believed to be the Chi-Rho symbol, used especially by the early Christian church) and the text is read from the bottom line to the top rather than the usual way around.

 As far as I can find out, argument ranges over whether this is a dedication stone regarding the endowment of an earlier church or part of the building thereof in the late C10 (during the period of the Danish occupation), or for the Norman build; evidence has been found that the tower was built onto an earlier nave (as usual with Lincoln churches, I've also found some speculation as to whether this is a continuation of use of the site from the Roman period although excavations opposite the church in the early 70s indicate that the settlement of Wigford dates from the C10-11 pre conquest...). I wonder how many of the stones used in the church were robbed out from the remains of Roman Lindum? 

Meanwhile, from more recent times, there is a brief account of £10 being donated towards the &quot;thorough&quot; restoration and enlargement work being carried out to the church during 1871, in the 'Reports and Papers of The Architectural and Archaeological Societies of the Counties of Lincoln and Northampton'. I've also found what might be the illustration you mentioned, Rod; it's in the 1879 edition of the above journal, along with a discussion, pp16-17, and the stone merits another illustration and a couple of paragraphs in the 1844 edition of 'The Archaeological Journal' of the Archaeological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland, pp14-16 - both are available online at archive dot org.

As clear as mud, as always! :)
Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Steve (and Rod!)</p>
	<p>Don&#8217;t know if this is of any help&#8230;</p>
	<p>   I believe that there is a &#8220;restored&#8221; transcription in Book 1 of &#8216;The Roman Inscriptions of Britain&#8217; edited by R.G. Collingwood and R.P. Wright pub 1965- (R.I.B 262) - the same translation as Rod gives. Both books 1 &amp; 2 of R.I.B. (inscriptions on stones &amp; inscriptions on other artefacts) should be available at all good reference libraries and a summarised version is to be found online at all the doubleyous dot roman-britain dot org</p>
	<p> The surviving text of the Roman inscription reads  - DIS M(A)NIBVS NOMINI SAC(R)I BRVSCI FILI CIVIS SENONE ET CARSSO VNAE CONIVGIS EIVS ET QUINTI F&#8230; -  Which translates as something like &#8216;In the memory of the departed,&#8217; or &#8216;In the hands of the Gods, the name of Sacer, a son of Bruscus, citizen of the Senones and Carssouna his wife and Quintus h(is son)&#8217; - the rest of the stone has been broken off at some point in time, but it&#8217;s pretty safe to assume that the &#8216;F&#8230;&#8217; is FILI as Roman tombstone inscriptions do tend to follow a certain formula. The tribe of the Senones were located in what was NW central Gaul, around the region of what is now the modern town of Sens in Burgundy - does this mean that there are some yellowbellies out there related to these settlers in Lindum Colonia(i.e. French by any other name!) ? <img src='http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
	<p>The full text of the Anglo Saxon inscription is believed to be, according to R.I.B., Eirtig me let wircean and fios godian Criste to lofe and sancte Marie XP (the XP, although carved on the stone as a &#8216;+&#8217; with a &#8216;P&#8217; as the middle vertical stroke, is believed to be the Chi-Rho symbol, used especially by the early Christian church) and the text is read from the bottom line to the top rather than the usual way around.</p>
	<p> As far as I can find out, argument ranges over whether this is a dedication stone regarding the endowment of an earlier church or part of the building thereof in the late C10 (during the period of the Danish occupation), or for the Norman build; evidence has been found that the tower was built onto an earlier nave (as usual with Lincoln churches, I&#8217;ve also found some speculation as to whether this is a continuation of use of the site from the Roman period although excavations opposite the church in the early 70s indicate that the settlement of Wigford dates from the C10-11 pre conquest&#8230;). I wonder how many of the stones used in the church were robbed out from the remains of Roman Lindum? </p>
	<p>Meanwhile, from more recent times, there is a brief account of £10 being donated towards the &#8220;thorough&#8221; restoration and enlargement work being carried out to the church during 1871, in the &#8216;Reports and Papers of The Architectural and Archaeological Societies of the Counties of Lincoln and Northampton&#8217;. I&#8217;ve also found what might be the illustration you mentioned, Rod; it&#8217;s in the 1879 edition of the above journal, along with a discussion, pp16-17, and the stone merits another illustration and a couple of paragraphs in the 1844 edition of &#8216;The Archaeological Journal&#8217; of the Archaeological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland, pp14-16 - both are available online at archive dot org.</p>
	<p>As clear as mud, as always! <img src='http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Kate
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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: Rod</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Steve,
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site. I think I've seen a drawing of the original inscription in one of the volumes of Lincolnshire Notes &amp;#38; Queries but I'm not sure.
No idea as to who translated it Steve - sorry about that
Regards
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Steve,<br />
thanks for the comment and welcome to the site. I think I&#8217;ve seen a drawing of the original inscription in one of the volumes of Lincolnshire Notes &amp; Queries but I&#8217;m not sure.<br />
No idea as to who translated it Steve - sorry about that<br />
Regards<br />
Rod
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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: Steve Hulme</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi - Do you know where I might find a copy of the original saxon inscription that was placed above the roman lettering?  Do you know who did the translation? Your photo is great but I still can't read the original. Any pointers would be very much appreciated. Steve Hulme</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi - Do you know where I might find a copy of the original saxon inscription that was placed above the roman lettering?  Do you know who did the translation? Your photo is great but I still can&#8217;t read the original. Any pointers would be very much appreciated. Steve Hulme
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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: Rod</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Chris,
thanks for the kind words and  information and welcome to the site - hope you'll return.
Posting any information here is always of interest Chris - just provided it is noot copied from another website.
Best wishes
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Chris,<br />
thanks for the kind words and  information and welcome to the site - hope you&#8217;ll return.<br />
Posting any information here is always of interest Chris - just provided it is noot copied from another website.<br />
Best wishes<br />
Rod
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 		<title>Comment on St Mary le Wigford Church in Lincoln ~ An Illustrated Guide by: Chris Burke</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Rod, many thanks for a wonderful site. I live in Lincoln and Call Advocasy (I am Chair of Trustees) now meets their so I spend some time at the church. I have met the new vicar who is a good guy. If you want particular info let me know. I'm sure I have seen a parish history and there used to be  a web site. Also I cam accross this church yard listing you might like below. My own parish is SS Peter &amp;#38; Pauls, I have lots on that if you are interested but it is a modern church.

Warmest Regards,

Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Rod, many thanks for a wonderful site. I live in Lincoln and Call Advocasy (I am Chair of Trustees) now meets their so I spend some time at the church. I have met the new vicar who is a good guy. If you want particular info let me know. I&#8217;m sure I have seen a parish history and there used to be  a web site. Also I cam accross this church yard listing you might like below. My own parish is SS Peter &amp; Pauls, I have lots on that if you are interested but it is a modern church.</p>
	<p>Warmest Regards,</p>
	<p>Chris.
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Chris,
thanks for the kind words and I'll be only too grateful for pointers similar to those you've already mentioned as I really do enjoy this and want to do exactly as you say.
This site gets a lot of visitors (just under 2 million hits in July) so it's great to use that to raise the awareness of what we have here.
I also want to preserve knowledge that may otherwise be lost or is at least very difficult to locate.
Thanks again Chris 
All the best 
Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Chris,<br />
thanks for the kind words and I&#8217;ll be only too grateful for pointers similar to those you&#8217;ve already mentioned as I really do enjoy this and want to do exactly as you say.<br />
This site gets a lot of visitors (just under 2 million hits in July) so it&#8217;s great to use that to raise the awareness of what we have here.<br />
I also want to preserve knowledge that may otherwise be lost or is at least very difficult to locate.<br />
Thanks again Chris<br />
All the best<br />
Rod
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