Comments on: Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery A Site About Everything and Nothing Mon, 21 May 2012 22:51:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-27004 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:41:15 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-27004 Sandy, thanks for the comment and the kinds words and a warm welcome to the site - I suspect if you were in GY at the moment you'd soon wish you were back in Oz - better off enjoying the sun and tuning in to our guided tour here on the site. Regards from Lincolnshire Rod Sandy,
thanks for the comment and the kinds words and a warm welcome to the site - I suspect if you were in GY at the moment you’d soon wish you were back in Oz - better off enjoying the sun and tuning in to our guided tour here on the site.
Regards from Lincolnshire
Rod

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: Amiguru http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-26997 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:33:15 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-26997 Barbara, Not strictly Lincolnshire but this may be of use to you. As you no doubt know Dick Whittington was a very real person and a benevolent mayor if ever there was one; (<b>Ken &#38; Boris take note!</b>), and this is exemplified in an existing drawing of him on his deathbed, made immediately post-mortem. It is accompanied by the following statement: " <i>the foresayde .worthy and notable merchaunt, Richard Whittington, the which while he leued had ryght liberal and large hands to the needy and poure people, charged streitly on his death bed us his foresayde executors to ordeyne a house of almes, after his death . . . and thereupon fully he declared his will unto us.</i>" I have a copy of Liber Albus, (The White Book of the City of London), which is a manual of instruction and guidance for all walks of life in London and was completed during his last mayoralty. A fascinating read for anyone interested in the minutiae of life in early 15th. century London, (or indeed any city at that time). Hoping this helps, regards, Neville Barbara,

Not strictly Lincolnshire but this may be of use to you. As you no doubt know Dick Whittington was a very real person and a benevolent mayor if ever there was one; (Ken & Boris take note!), and this is exemplified in an existing drawing of him on his deathbed, made immediately post-mortem. It is accompanied by the following statement:

” the foresayde .worthy and notable merchaunt, Richard Whittington, the which while he leued had ryght liberal and large hands to the needy and poure people, charged streitly on his death bed us his foresayde executors to ordeyne a house of almes, after his death . . . and thereupon fully he declared his will unto us.”

I have a copy of Liber Albus, (The White Book of the City of London), which is a manual of instruction and guidance for all walks of life in London and was completed during his last mayoralty. A fascinating read for anyone interested in the minutiae of life in early 15th. century London, (or indeed any city at that time).

Hoping this helps, regards,
Neville

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: Sandy http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-26990 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:30:22 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-26990 Hi there, I came upon this site when researching old relatives. Found some were born in Caistor so wanted to know more about where they lived hence I came upon your site. I just love it and wish I still lived in Grimsby so that I could wander around the places you talk about and imagine how they were. I live in Adelaide, South Australia, only 250 years old, not much old history here. Keep up the good work you have a dedicated reader here. SandyB. Hi there, I came upon this site when researching old relatives. Found some were born in Caistor so wanted to know more about where they lived hence I came upon your site. I just love it and wish I still lived in Grimsby so that I could wander around the places you talk about and imagine how they were. I live in Adelaide, South Australia, only 250 years old, not much old history here. Keep up the good work you have a dedicated reader here. SandyB.

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-19406 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:36:46 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-19406 HH, very interesting and a good point - there's still room for research on this subject, plenty of room I think. Also congratulations on fine usage of html and tags in the comment - very effective and nice to see them used Regards Rod HH,
very interesting and a good point - there’s still room for research on this subject, plenty of room I think.
Also congratulations on fine usage of html and tags in the comment - very effective and nice to see them used
Regards
Rod

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: History Hunter http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-19399 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:35:52 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-19399 Having a trawl thru an archaeological website I found this little piece of info that i thought may add, once again, to this cracking thread. <blockquote><b>Edward Gillett in his ‘A History of Grimsby’ even illustrates an alleged position on his map of the town for the mediaeval period. Using all my resources and as far as I can judge, he puts the ‘Leper Hospital’ where Nos. 34-36 Bargate now stand. I cannot find any reference in the book as to the evidence for this being the location.</b></blockquote> <i>Founded in the 13th century for leprous men and women. It was still extant in 1475, and is depicted on a map of Grimsby of 1491. It was located West of Bargate.</i> <b>WEST?</b> That would put it on the side of 34-36 Bargate! Still standing on a map in 1491 as well? Maybe we <b>HAVE</b> been looking in the wrong place all along??? Having a trawl thru an archaeological website I found this little piece of info that i thought may add, once again, to this cracking thread.

Edward Gillett in his ‘A History of Grimsby’ even illustrates an alleged position on his map of the town for the mediaeval period. Using all my resources and as far as I can judge, he puts the ‘Leper Hospital’ where Nos. 34-36 Bargate now stand. I cannot find any reference in the book as to the evidence for this being the location.

Founded in the 13th century for leprous men and women. It was still extant in 1475, and is depicted on a map of Grimsby of 1491. It was located West of Bargate.

WEST? That would put it on the side of 34-36 Bargate! Still standing on a map in 1491 as well? Maybe we HAVE been looking in the wrong place all along???

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-19225 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:51:21 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-19225 Barbara, thanks for taking the time to share that valuable background information, really appreciated and a warm welcome to the site. Best of luck with the book Regards, Rod Barbara,
thanks for taking the time to share that valuable background information, really appreciated and a warm welcome to the site.
Best of luck with the book
Regards,
Rod

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: Barbara Robson http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-19223 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 08:45:45 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-19223 Hi, I got to this site via "secondhandbooks", one of the dangers of wandering in the web. However I was pleased to see a reference to Lazars as I am writing a novel (sorry) called Lazards Field a name inspired by the stone halfway up Highgate Hill in London. Although there is a statue of a cat seated upon this stone (said to be the point where Dick Whittington heard the bells that made him "turn again Whittington")the stone itself commemorates the Lazars Field which lay roughly where Whittington Hospital now stands. I am not sure if this actually a leper stone, but now my interest is re-arroused I might check that out. These steep Hills to the north of London were popular sites for hospitals as the air was fresher. There was also a leper hospital lower down at the junction of St Pauls Road with Essex Road (formerly Lower Street). On the point of underground rivers, my friends Daisy and Roger Lewis once walked all the tributaries of the River Lee and many of these are now "boarded rivers", including the stream that ran at the bottom of my garden in Islington, the path of which is traced by a sexy little wiggle in the back garden walls here, which was obviously some kind of boundary marker prior to the houses being built in 1861. The house/shop that Daisy and Roge lived in was mid terrace but built after the others. this was presumably because "my" stream cut through the terrace here and caused problems. To prove his point Roge dug a well in his back gardenand placed a handpump on it. They used this quite often. Before our houses were built the area was "market gardens", possibly because of the number of streams which ran here. Sorry to go on so, but I am over stimulated by your site! Barbara R Hi,
I got to this site via “secondhandbooks”, one of the dangers of wandering in the web.
However I was pleased to see a reference to Lazars as I am writing a novel (sorry) called Lazards Field a name inspired by the stone halfway up Highgate Hill in London.
Although there is a statue of a cat seated upon this stone (said to be the point where Dick Whittington heard the bells that made him “turn again Whittington”)the stone itself commemorates the Lazars Field which lay roughly where Whittington Hospital now stands. I am not sure if this actually a leper stone, but now my interest is re-arroused I might check that out.
These steep Hills to the north of London were popular sites for hospitals as the air was fresher. There was also a leper hospital lower down at the junction of St Pauls Road with Essex Road (formerly Lower Street).
On the point of underground rivers, my friends Daisy and Roger Lewis once walked all the tributaries of the River Lee and many of these are now “boarded rivers”, including the stream that ran at the bottom of my garden in Islington, the path of which is traced by a sexy little wiggle in the back garden walls here, which was obviously some kind of boundary marker prior to the houses being built in 1861. The house/shop that Daisy and Roge lived in was mid terrace but built after the others. this was presumably because “my” stream cut through the terrace here and caused problems. To prove his point Roge dug a well in his back gardenand placed a handpump on it. They used this quite often. Before our houses were built the area was “market gardens”, possibly because of the number of streams which ran here.
Sorry to go on so, but I am over stimulated by your site!

Barbara R

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-18629 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:54:44 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-18629 Mary Ellen, thanks for the comment and a warm welcome to the site - pleased you found it of interest - dig around there's plenty more to see All the best Rod Mary Ellen,
thanks for the comment and a warm welcome to the site - pleased you found it of interest - dig around there’s plenty more to see
All the best
Rod

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: mary ellen http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-18626 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:41:05 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-18626 so pleased a firnd pointed me to this site the detail is fascinating so pleased a firnd pointed me to this site the detail is fascinating

]]> Comment on Long Lost Buildings in Grimsby Lincolnshire ~ A Bargate Mystery by: option911 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-18149 Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:25:10 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/long-lost-buildings-in-grimsby-lincolnshire-a-bargate-mystery#comment-18149 In the picture depicting Mr &#38; Mrs Bannister outside Spring Villa, Mrs Bannister was origianally married to William Marshall who was one of the partners of William Marshall &#38; sons Flour mills(my distant Grandfather). They lived in East Villa on Scartho Road. Does anyone know the name of mrs Bannister/Marshall? William Marshall was also the Prussian Vice Consulate in Grimsby, can anyone shed any light on this? In the picture depicting Mr & Mrs Bannister outside Spring Villa, Mrs Bannister was origianally married to William Marshall who was one of the partners of William Marshall & sons Flour mills(my distant Grandfather). They lived in East Villa on Scartho Road. Does anyone know the name of mrs Bannister/Marshall? William Marshall was also the Prussian Vice Consulate in Grimsby, can anyone shed any light on this?

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