Comments on: Book and Magazine Collector Mistakes & Errors http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector A Site About Everything and Nothing Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:11:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on Book and Magazine Collector Mistakes & Errors by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-6784 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:34:39 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-6784 <b>Sent to me via one of my other websites How funny and in theory spam !</b> To whom it may concern; I hope that you are well and that you don’t mind me contacting you. I work for a magazine called ‘Book &#38; Magazine Collector’, first of all, are you familiar with the publication? It’s a specialist magazine for avid book fans &#38; collectors; we cover all genres of books, ranging from crime fiction to children's books, collectable comics, mainstream fiction and history to name a few. We currently have 3,500 subscribers with a circulation of 12,000 and a readership of at least double that figure. A recent reader survey showed our readers have spent an average of £304 a head on new books in the last year, with each reader also spending an average of £828 on collectable and second-hand books in the last 12 months. They own an average of 2116 books (533 paperback and 1583 hardback) and the value of their collection averages at £20,574. The purpose of this email is to gain you initial thoughts on display advertising within ‘Book and Magazine Collector’. The content of your website would definitely be of interest to our readers and certainly fits in with the content of the publication. Therefore I’m pretty confident that advertising would prove to be successful for you in our magazine. We have an offer at the moment where we are giving away a free classified advert (up to 30 words) away with every display advert booked. If you aren't familiar with the magazine and would like to see the publication, I can send you a voucher copy to you in the post? If you would like to see the magazine, please get in contact with me via on my direct line or via email and I’ll send you a copy straight away. If you require any further information please let me know. Sent to me via one of my other websites
How funny and in theory spam !

To whom it may concern;

I hope that you are well and that you don’t mind me contacting you.

I work for a magazine called ‘Book & Magazine Collector’, first of all, are you familiar with the publication?

It’s a specialist magazine for avid book fans & collectors; we cover all genres of books, ranging from crime fiction to children’s books, collectable comics, mainstream fiction and history to name a few.

We currently have 3,500 subscribers with a circulation of 12,000 and a readership of at least double that figure.

A recent reader survey showed our readers have spent an average of £304 a head on new books in the last year, with each reader also spending an average of £828 on collectable and second-hand books in the last 12 months.

They own an average of 2116 books (533 paperback and 1583 hardback) and the value of their collection averages at £20,574.

The purpose of this email is to gain you initial thoughts on display advertising within ‘Book and Magazine Collector’.

The content of your website would definitely be of interest to our readers and certainly fits in with the content of the publication.

Therefore I’m pretty confident that advertising would prove to be successful for you in our magazine.

We have an offer at the moment where we are giving away a free classified advert (up to 30 words) away with every display advert booked.

If you aren’t familiar with the magazine and would like to see the publication, I can send you a voucher copy to you in the post?

If you would like to see the magazine, please get in contact with me via on my direct line or via email and I’ll send you a copy straight away.

If you require any further information please let me know.

]]> Comment on Book and Magazine Collector Mistakes & Errors by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-267 Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:33:34 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-267 Hello David thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. To take your points. <blockquote>Many come from collector friends and if they have originated on your site I apologise( and will be more choosy who I get them from)</blockquote> It was the editor that contacted me asking for pictures David, as he did again just recently, this time I declined to help - fear not they were not 'stolen' from Classic Crime Fiction <blockquote>With regard to the Crime Club bindings—yes the colour for 99.9% was indeed Orange. In two cases, Wallaces “Devil Man” and Smith’s, “The Bowery Murder” these have existed in black and mauve bindings,</blockquote> With respect David, you mentioned this in the article and subsequently in a letter to the editor. <strong>Nobody is suggesting they do not exist in that colour</strong>, indeed I have handled both books, and others too, that fall into this format. The point is, that they are not the true first editions. They all came out after the first. Because print runs for these Collins Crime Club books were low they simply printed all the sheets in one go and did not bother to change them. This is something that many publishers did, there are cases of books being bound and sold using text blocks printed years before! The books you mention were used for the reprint/cheap later edition. Every time a book such as you mention turns up there is an example in the orange/red cloth. I have, for example, seen the Edgar Wallace Devil Man in orange cloth, 7/6 jacket still with the original wrap round band stating it to be the latest release and the book of the month! Rest assured this is a fact David, there is no issue on cloth colour. There are increasing errors in Book and Magazine Collector which is why I thought this post relevant. Many of these are clearly at the door of the magazine staff themselves. I sympathise with you that once you send something in you are at their mercy - something I would be reluctant to do myself. This was one of the reasons I decided against helping with their upcoming Anthony Gilbert and Colin Watson articles. If these contained errors/mishaps and they credited the site this time I could be left looking foolish. The importance of accuracy is very important for the magazine, as they are regarded as a reference source. You can regularly see them used as a reference source on ebay auctions for example. Indeed ,earlier this year a reprint was put up for auction, claimed to be a first edition as per Book and Magazine Collector, it was indeed a reprint though B&MC had labelled a picture of a cheap reprint as a first! Thanks again David All the best Rod Hello David
thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated.
To take your points.

Many come from collector friends and if they have originated on your site I apologise( and will be more choosy who I get them from)

It was the editor that contacted me asking for pictures David, as he did again just recently, this time I declined to help - fear not they were not ’stolen’ from Classic Crime Fiction

With regard to the Crime Club bindings—yes the colour for 99.9% was indeed Orange. In two cases, Wallaces “Devil Man” and Smith’s, “The Bowery Murder” these have existed in black and mauve bindings,

With respect David, you mentioned this in the article and subsequently in a letter to the editor. Nobody is suggesting they do not exist in that colour, indeed I have handled both books, and others too, that fall into this format.

The point is, that they are not the true first editions. They all came out after the first.
Because print runs for these Collins Crime Club books were low they simply printed all the sheets in one go and did not bother to change them. This is something that many publishers did, there are cases of books being bound and sold using text blocks printed years before!

The books you mention were used for the reprint/cheap later edition.

Every time a book such as you mention turns up there is an example in the orange/red cloth. I have, for example, seen the Edgar Wallace Devil Man in orange cloth, 7/6 jacket still with the original wrap round band stating it to be the latest release and the book of the month!

Rest assured this is a fact David, there is no issue on cloth colour.

There are increasing errors in Book and Magazine Collector which is why I thought this post relevant. Many of these are clearly at the door of the magazine staff themselves. I sympathise with you that once you send something in you are at their mercy - something I would be reluctant to do myself. This was one of the reasons I decided against helping with their upcoming Anthony Gilbert and Colin Watson articles. If these contained errors/mishaps and they credited the site this time I could be left looking foolish.

The importance of accuracy is very important for the magazine, as they are regarded as a reference source.
You can regularly see them used as a reference source on ebay auctions for example.
Indeed ,earlier this year a reprint was put up for auction, claimed to be a first edition as per Book and Magazine Collector, it was indeed a reprint though B&MC had labelled a picture of a cheap reprint as a first!

Thanks again David
All the best
Rod

]]> Comment on Book and Magazine Collector Mistakes & Errors by: Dave Blake http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-266 Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:53:13 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-266 Dear Rod, Have just come across your comments above and don't faint,I agree, they are almost correct. The pricing gaffs, wrongly captioned illustrations (not all of them supplied by me) and other problems have been sent to their source-the staff at Book and Mag Collector (during April). The problem no doubt is that once into print it can be bad for sales to issue endless corrections? --who knows? All I do know is that the price guide was jigged around and differred from that submitted With regard to the illustrations for the Crime Club &#38; Fitt article around half are from my own collection, with the remainder coming from the mags database and various "other" sources. If I use a jacket illustration, as with my article on John Rhode , I always credit the source (Mark Sutcliffe etc). Many come from collector friends and if they have originated on your site I apologise( and will be more choosy who I get them from) With regard to the Crime Club bindings---yes the colour for 99.9% was indeed Orange. In two cases, Wallaces "Devil Man" and Smith's, "The Bowery Murder" these have existed in black and mauve bindings, (as well as one other by Alice Campbell. )and were to the best of my knowledge true first editions, correctly dated and not reprints, rebinds or foreign editions. However I take the point that it would have been of more use to all and sundry had I not included this in the piece as I have no way of backing up my argument as I (conveniently, i hear you say) no longer have access to them, the owner dying some six years ago. However the same two books are mentioned by Ralph Spurrier in his preface to the CCC checklist, although whether he means they are true variants or fall into the limbo of reprints I do not know. Your website is a great resource for any collector and has to be a labour of love. Whatever you feel about the articles (I myself have grave reservations on at least two), there was never any intention to mislead or give false info Regards Dave Blake, Cornwall. Dear Rod,
Have just come across your comments above and don’t faint,I agree, they are almost correct. The pricing gaffs, wrongly captioned illustrations (not all of them supplied by me) and other problems have been sent to their source-the staff at Book and Mag Collector (during April). The problem no doubt is that once into print it can be bad for sales to issue endless corrections? –who knows? All I do know is that the price guide was jigged around and differred from that submitted
With regard to the illustrations for the Crime Club & Fitt article around half are from my own collection, with the remainder coming from the mags database and various “other” sources. If I use a jacket illustration, as with my article on John Rhode , I always credit the source (Mark Sutcliffe etc). Many come from collector friends and if they have originated on your site I apologise( and will be more choosy who I get them from)
With regard to the Crime Club bindings—yes the colour for 99.9% was indeed Orange. In two cases, Wallaces “Devil Man” and Smith’s, “The Bowery Murder” these have existed in black and mauve bindings, (as well as one other by Alice Campbell. )and were to the best of my knowledge true first editions, correctly dated and not reprints, rebinds or foreign editions. However I take the point that it would have been of more use to all and sundry had I not included this in the piece as I have no way of backing up my argument as I (conveniently, i hear you say) no longer have access to them, the owner dying some six years ago. However the same two books are mentioned by Ralph Spurrier in his preface to the CCC checklist, although whether he means they are true variants or fall into the limbo of reprints I do not know.
Your website is a great resource for any collector and has to be a labour of love. Whatever you feel about the articles (I myself have grave reservations on at least two), there was never any intention to mislead or give false info
Regards Dave Blake, Cornwall.

]]> Comment on Book and Magazine Collector Mistakes & Errors by: Rod http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-80 Fri, 19 May 2006 15:23:49 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-80 Hi Victor thanks for the comment and input, greatly appreciated. I have handled copies of this title in jacket so have a reasonable idea of the price which is why I used it as an example. Prices are, as you suggest, often difficult to pin down, my point in is this case was the disparity within the same Book and Magazine Collector article. It is a fantastic book with one of Hastain's best jackets Regards Rod Hi Victor
thanks for the comment and input, greatly appreciated.
I have handled copies of this title in jacket so have a reasonable idea of the price which is why I used it as an example.

Prices are, as you suggest, often difficult to pin down, my point in is this case was the disparity within the same Book and Magazine Collector article.

It is a fantastic book with one of Hastain’s best jackets
Regards
Rod

]]> Comment on Book and Magazine Collector Mistakes & Errors by: Victor R. Goldring http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-79 Fri, 19 May 2006 13:37:37 +0000 http://www.rodcollins.com/wordpress/book-and-magazine-collector#comment-79 Dear Rod, I found your comments on Murder Mars The Tour very interesting. Price is always a debatable point among booksellers and collectors and finding a book's true worth may even be impossible. However this book sold for Pounds 500.00 when last available and is a very scarce title and I know of only one copy still available on the internet but it will not be traceable using Google search. Regards Victor Dear Rod,

I found your comments on Murder Mars The Tour very interesting. Price is always a debatable point among booksellers and collectors and finding a book’s true worth may even be impossible. However this book sold for Pounds 500.00 when last available and is a very scarce title and I know of only one copy still available on the internet but it will not be traceable using Google search.

Regards

Victor

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